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		<title>By: Mathematical Expectation Of A Trade &#124; MartinKronicle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathematical Expectation Of A Trade &#124; MartinKronicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Expectation Of A Trade  January 20 2010 &#124; 3:22 am PST    ShareI received a lot of emails to my post yesterday about the expected value of a trade. Only one person got the correct answer to the game of flipping 2 Aces off the top of the deck [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Expectation Of A Trade  January 20 2010 | 3:22 am PST    ShareI received a lot of emails to my post yesterday about the expected value of a trade. Only one person got the correct answer to the game of flipping 2 Aces off the top of the deck [...]</p>
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		<title>By: martinkronicle</title>
		<link>http://martinkronicle.com/2010/01/19/prop-trading-firms-2/comment-page-1/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>martinkronicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: maple</title>
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		<dc:creator>maple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never put this trade on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is not a trade, it&#039;s a gamble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never put this trade on.</p>
<p>This is not a trade, it&#39;s a gamble.</p>
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		<title>By: synhawk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops Michael asked for Math. This reminds me too much of school Michael ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I did a probability intersection of two events.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Event A is odds of picking an ace out of 52 cards (4/52).&lt;br&gt;Event B is odds of picking a SECOND ace out of 51 cards (3/51)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Intersection probability formula is P(A) * P(B). Which gives us .00452489 * 100 or .45 percent chance to win $100. So we&#039;re paying $1 a pop to win $100 yet we don&#039;t win at least $100 every 100 times we attempt this so it is not even break-even, it is a negative expectancy proposition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops Michael asked for Math. This reminds me too much of school Michael ;)</p>
<p>So I did a probability intersection of two events.</p>
<p>Event A is odds of picking an ace out of 52 cards (4/52).<br />Event B is odds of picking a SECOND ace out of 51 cards (3/51)</p>
<p>Intersection probability formula is P(A) * P(B). Which gives us .00452489 * 100 or .45 percent chance to win $100. So we&#39;re paying $1 a pop to win $100 yet we don&#39;t win at least $100 every 100 times we attempt this so it is not even break-even, it is a negative expectancy proposition.</p>
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		<title>By: martinkronicle</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinkronicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: maple</title>
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		<dc:creator>maple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never put this trade on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is not a trade, it&#039;s a gamble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never put this trade on.</p>
<p>This is not a trade, it&#39;s a gamble.</p>
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